Talk:ITM Power

This article was nominated for deletion on 24 October 2012 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

A fact from ITM Power appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 November 2012 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that ITM Power are developing technology to make the Isle of Wight carbon neutral?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2012/November. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/ITM Power.

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Logo out of date. The company logo has been updated and now needs replacing. The up to date version can be found on the company's official Flickr account - https://www.flickr.com/photos/itmpowerplc/52673806137/in/dateposted-public/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenbladespin (talk • contribs) 09:17, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ITM Power- Ref Improve

Hi there Noq, I was just wondering why you decided to put the ref improve template on ITM Power, I did previously remove that template, and if you objected my removal of the template, perhaps it should have been brought up on the talk page prior to the re-addition. I also disagree somewhat with the notability template, as it is covered by independent reliable sources. Most major references are either from a third party or backed up by a listed third party source. As for the non-executive director statement, common sense is required, as a company would probably not lie about their non-executive director. Thanks W.D. 18:19, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the references are either local news stories, some of which do not even mention the company in the main text but just in user comments. Others are to the companies own web site or just directory or announcement sites. Others read as press releases - so better refs are needed. I am still not sure how this small company meets the notability guidelines for companies. noq (talk) 23:50, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the misunderstanding, but all of the references mention ITM Power in the main text. There is one reference that seems to be considered a press release. One. Aside from that, all major statements are backed up by reliable, third party sources. Common sense required in Wikipedia, not just rules. Common sense means believing that a company would not lie about who their director is. It is a national company covered by reliable sources, and therefore I believe it is notable. Hence, I am removing the templates. Thanks, W.D.(O.T.G) (talk) 12:44, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure why you are talking about directors - I never mentioned them - but you have still failed to answer how the company meets WP:ORG. This reference dose not mention the company except in a user comment at the end. The history section just seems to be a list of people being appointed - not anything significant. The Green car reference mentions the company in passing - not significant coverage. The Hydrogen journal reference starts off "UK hydrogen company ITM Power reports that its revenues have grown from £8k to £480k in one year" and continues in the vein of a press release. Please address these issues before removing the tags. noq (talk) 12:57, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thisreference is linked to by another reference, which states that it is in fact an ITM Power refuelling station. As for WP:NOR, perhaps you could state why you think it doesn't meet it as opposed to simply asking me why I think it does. Press releases are typically written as a release to the press by the company, not an article created by the press. Thanks, W.D. 16:13, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting confused now. The thisisnottingham ref does not say it is ITM power so is no good for establishing notability. What is the original research? And why does that need me to prove a negative - It should be a lot simpler to just state which of the notability criteria it meets - I am not seeing anything in the article that states that. It is a small company that has sold a couple of things and that is the complete article - so I fail to see any claim of notability. noq (talk) 17:21, 17 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It seems this company is part of a project to make the Isle of Wight carbon neutral, as demonstrated by the cites I added, as of 21 October 2012. See Minister of State for Energy John Hayes, Bloomberg News, The Economist, and The UK House of Commons report for more information. I believe this makes the company notable. Please discuss. Geraldshields11 (talk) 01:59, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies noq. I have no idea how I ended up typing NOR instead of ORG. Anyway, I disagree, it seems to have had a large influence. It hasn't just 'sold a couple of things'. Note that they make, and have sold more than 2 products. W.D. (talk) 18:09, 24 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]